MSI P Neo and MSI P Neo Combo system payments on the basis of chipset Intel P35
Chipset (northern bridge P is applied and southern ICH (use ICH9R is possible))
At release of payments on new chipsets the greatest interest of reading public features of concrete models, how many cause at all so much the general tendencies shown in new generation. It and is clear: to study reviews of all payments it is heavy successively, sparc notebook and to make to itself impression about that, how much novelties are interesting and deserve duly (or even immediate) purchases it is necessary. Well, anticipating these first reviews, we can note some differences. We would name the main thing much decreased thermal emission P35/G that leads very comfortable termorejimu at preservation former chipsetny'h radiators (more in detail this question is considered in new rulers of chipsets). Certainly, on some novelties will appear sloty' for memory DDR3, but this change quite obvious and expected. In the rest this all the same chipsets Intel (it is possible to sparc notebook establish simply a new payment instead of model on the basis of i915, and Windows XP will be loaded without problems), we have not found out any unpleasant or unexpected moments.
Speaking already about concrete payments, it is clear, that the first for consideration we have chosen kombo-model' from given to us MSI. Generally speaking, payments with support at once two types of memory are represented us by a thing in a life unnecessary and if you do not have cleanly research interest, to recommend such purchase we cannot in any sparc notebook way. (ideas of a stage-by-stage upgrade we shall leave on conscience forumny'h visionaries as simultaneously modules DDR and DDR will not work.) however, MSI offers two practically identical models of an average level differing only by support DDR at one them so we, actually, shall consider today at once two payments.
Appearance of a payment is quite habitual, attract attention only sloty' for memory. First, because two of them are intended for installation of modules DDR sparc notebook and have other arrangement of a key in a socket. Secondly, attracts attention their unusual relative positioning: pairs slotov, and in the second pair and sloty' (it is literally on polkontakta, that allows to assume, that the reason of such decision is the desire more conveniently to dissolve on a payment a wide loop of paths) are from each other displaced. As if to the general convenience of distributing serious claims to a payment are not present unless unique socket IDE should be placed in other place as in the given variant of design access sparc notebook to it will be blocked by a loop of wires from konnektora a feed. From lacks not distributings, but designing we shall note only two slotov PCI (at three PCIEx1) probably, however, that it already should be perceived presence as norm as the assortment of payments of expansion with interface PCI Express constantly extends and includes even modern sound cards from Creative. (However, on the basis of P it will be soon possible to find and more unusual models for example, without sparc notebook support IDE.)
Are dissolved, but sockets SATA (they are used in a variant of a payment with southern bridge ICH9R) are not unsoldered on textolite of our copy of a payment. Besides two models MSI considered today lets out one more precisely same on the basis of G (G Neo with support only DDR2), and also a number of payments on P and G in series Platinum and Diamond sparc notebook these are based on other design PCB (in particular, providing two slota PCIEx for schedules CrossFire) and use a complex design with thermal tubes for cooling a chipset and field transistors. It is curious, that one more payment is based on design PCB of models Platinum also, P Neo which is simply deprived a cooler on thermal tubes functionality of all models Neo is exclusively similar. Access to the unique available crosspiece (clearing CMOS) is a little complicated owing to its affinity to slotam expansions, sparc notebook the description of its functionality is present on textolite. The size of a payment of 3 2 mm (hardly made narrower ATX), fastening to the case six screws, sags near edge of a payment and delivers some inconveniences at use of the sockets located on it.
In a three-channel pulse voltage stabilizer of a feed of the processor it is applied on field transistors on the channel, that is quite sufficient size to not worry about an overheat of these transistors even despite lacking additional sparc notebook cooling by means of radiators. Besides in a new ruler of payments MSI uses throttles not with iron, and with ferrite cores, that salutarily affects a level of a power consumption. The set of condensers in key circuits of a feed can be estimated as sound, though and not the best (when as in topovy'h payments of the majority of large manufacturers, on all payment polymeric condensers are applied only): for the processor polymeric condensers on 6 mkF (from the sparc notebook unknown manufacturer), on 10 mkF and on 33 mkF from United Chemi-Con are used, and the voltage stabilizer of memory (strengthened by application of inductive elements) includes condensers on 10 mkF from United Chemi-Con.
Pressure of the processor, +3,3, + and + In, + In Standby;
Temperature of the processor (the built in gauge of the processor) and payments (the built in gauge of a payment);
Technology of automatic adjustment of rotation of the processor fan depending on temperature (the temperature limit and frequency of rotation of a cooler is set at neprevy'shenii this limit).
Processor socket sparc notebook (Socket 775, support of all modern processors Core 2, Pentium Dual Core and Celeron (with microarchitecture Core) for this socket, including the newest processors with frequency FSB of 13 MHz; from models with microarchitecture Netburst trunks having frequency of 8 MHz and above) are supported only;
sockets under DDR SDRAM DIMM (up to GB DDR2-533/667/800; the two-channel operating mode is supported at filling slotov both channels) and sockets under DDR SDRAM DIMM (up to GB sparc notebook DDR3-800/1066; the two-channel operating mode is supported at filling slotov both channels); simultaneous work DDR and DDR is impossible; later on a site should appear the certificated modules;
Sockets of a feed: standard ATX 2. ( contacts, it is possible to connect usual 20-kontaktny'y konnektor, but thus it is not recommended to use the powerful videoaccelerators which are not having own socket of a feed) and 4-kontaktny'y sparc notebook ATX12V for a feed of the processor;
Socket IDE (Parallel ATA), functioning due to additional controller Marvell, on devices ATA133;
sockets SATA-II (Serial ATA II) on devices SATA300, from them function due to additional controller Marvell and chipsetny'h, disks connected to last can be united in RAID-massiv levels 0, 1, 0+1, and Matrix RAID in case of application on a payment of the southern bridge of chipset ICH9R;
sockets for connection planok on sparc notebook additional ports USB;
The block of sockets for connection of analog inputs and outputs of a sound on the forward panel of a computer;
sockets for connection of fans (all with an opportunity of the control of quantity of turns), 4-kontaktny'y processor have function of automatic adjustment of frequency of rotation.
The empty seat in a number with COM-portom is obviously reserved for a video output (D-Sub) on payment sparc notebook G Neo Combo with integrated grafikoy.
To an output of payments on the basis of new chipsets MSI has updated design of a box, having made its effective enough. (in this case we result a photo of a box of model P Neo.) we describe the Complete set of delivery referring to given MSI as the complete set of our pre-series samples was incomplete. It seems, it is the first case, when in a box (in standard delivery) there is no loop for connection floppi-diskovoda.
Cables: SATA (with an adapter sparc notebook of a feed on one device) and ATA66;
Planck on the back panel of a computer with additional sockets USB;
Compact discs with necessary drivers and firm utilities, including Dual Core Center and DOT Express (for monitoring, management of frequency of rotation of coolers, dispersal and so forth) and Live Update (for search and updating of drivers, utilities and insertions BIOS through the Internet).
Sound, on the basis of 10-kanal'nogo (7.1+2) HDA-kodeka Realtek ALC888, sparc notebook with an opportunity of connection of audiosystems 7.1, a socket for connection face-to-face audiovhodov/vy'hodov and a socket for connection of optical output S/PDIF-Out;
Network, with support of speeds 10/100/10 Mbit/s (Gigabit Ethernet), on the basis of microcircuits Realtek RTL8111B (interface PCIEx1);
IDE/SATA-II, on the basis of microcircuit Marvell 88SE6111, with support of devices on channel ATA1 and devices SATA3 (interface PCIEx1);
FireWire, on the basis of microcircuit VIA 6308P, with support of ports.
We have estimated quality of the integrated sound decision in a sparc notebook mode of bats, kGc by means of the test program and a sound card:
Non-uniformity ACHH (from Hz up to kGc), dB:
The general estimation: very well . In this case it is used qualitative, but simple 10-kanal'ny'y audiocodec ALC8 which is not possessing additional functions interesting to the house user (like a set of technologies DTS realized in drivers and coding of an audiostream in AC- hurriedly for a conclusion on interface S/PDIF). But quality of an analog conclusion is at very good level, corresponds to the best representatives of the integrated sound.
It is curious, that sparc notebook from the moment of release of chipsets Intel 9 practically all manufacturers of parent payments have amicably started to apply controllers JMicron to realization (now absent in a chipset) supports of devices IDE (PATA.) MSI one of few companies who is not satisfied with standard decisions like JMB3 and JMB3 (it is valid, having some lacks), and constantly searches for alternatives. In case of payments on P and G MSI applies the decision from sparc notebook Marvell, and we should tell, that the first acquaintance has impressed us favourably: the payment was easy loaded with CD-privoda with interface IDE, allowed to establish OS with CD/DVD, did not demand updating specific managers for work with images of disks and drivers in Windows XP. However, only after some time, having collected statistics from different users, it will be possible to draw a conclusion on presence or absence of problems with realization from Marvell. Well and not wishing to wait or risk we urgently recommend to get a drive with interface sparc notebook SATA.
By means of crosspieces and switches the Crosspiece for clearing of contained CMOS
From BIOS, based on version 2. from AMI the Opportunity of switching-off of specific functions of the processor + Hyper-Threading, Execute Disable Bit, Enhanced SpeedStep, Virtualization Technology
Adjustments taymingov memories + By SPD, CAS# Latency, RAS# to CAS# Delay, RAS# Precharge, RAS# Activate to Precharge, tRFC, tWR, tWTR, tRRD, tRTP
Choice of frequency of work of memory + Auto or to sparc notebook set a multiplier concerning frequency FSB: 1:1, 1:1,2, 1:1,25, 1:1,5, 1:1,67, 1:
Opportunity of the task of frequency for peripheral trunks + PCI-E: 1 2 MHz with step of MHz
Change of frequency FSB + from face value up to 5 MHz with step of MHz; there is a function of dynamic dispersal of the processor
Change of a pressure of a kernel of the processor + up to +0,78 In with step 0,01 In
Change of a pressure of memory + 1, 3, In with step 0, In up to 2, In and step 0, In above
Change of sparc notebook a pressure of a chipset + 1, 1, In with step 0, In for northern bridge; 1, and 1, In for the southern bridge; 1, 1, In with step 0, In for input-output of the southern bridge
Change of pressure FSB + 1, 1, In with step 0, In
Version BIOS 1.0B (one of beta-versiy the first insertion), as last from accessible at the moment of testing was used. Listed opportunities BIOS are sparc notebook accessible in the specified insertion, working capacity of non-standard adjustments was not checked. The payment allows to cause on pressing the certain key during the moment of passage of procedure POST the menu for a choice of the loading device that enables with convenience to execute single loading, for example with CD-privoda, not making respective alterations in BIOS Setup.
It is necessary to note, that at testing we used one sparc notebook of early beta-versiy BIOS which at all did not provide realization of features of memory DDR (about what we still we shall talk below). In this connection, it is necessary to consider all data about ranges of admissible pressure and frequencies and t. Item as preliminary and before purchase it is desirable to specify them at owners of a payment in internet-konferenciyah if for you this question is important.
So, as we already spoke, variant MSI P Neo with support only DDR functionally and externally completely corresponds kombo-modeli (behind clear exception in a question sparc notebook to support DDR3). Curiously, as at this payment sloty' for memory are located not in one column, but, the truth, here their arrangement less exotic are shifted from each other only pairs slotov. One more interesting detail is the size of a payment: it makes 3 2 mm, that is on mm at, than at kombo-platy', and without any visible changes in distributing.
Everything told above about MSI P Neo Combo is obvious, that, to the full concerns sparc notebook and to this model; even variations of these payments which have got to us on testing, were identical: with southern bridge ICH (it is possible ICH9R) and with controller FireWire (it can be absent). As if to insertions BIOS they at these payments too were identical (at the moment of our testing), so and on this item to us to add there is nothing. We, thus, shall consider a question sparc notebook on productivity of payments MSI P Neo in one section, and then we shall sum up at once on both models.
Let's note, that version BIOS of payment P Neo Combo available at the moment of testing did not give an opportunity to expose normal (for DDR3) a pressure of a feed (1,5) and taymingi (they have been limited by standard scheme DDR so for the cores taymingov it was impossible to expose values more than 6). As a result of it variants of application of memory DDR at us have appeared are strongly limited. Behind details of installations of test sparc notebook stands and results of comparison of productivity we send you to chipsets Intel 3x, here we shall result parameters of new payments in a standard configuration (DDR2-800@4-4-4) and with DDR3-10 at taymingah 7-7-7.
Let's repeat, that more detailed conclusions are made by us in clause specified above, here only we shall note absolute equality on productivity MSI P Neo and MSI P Neo Combo, and also that fact, that new sparc notebook payments, at least, with current insertions BIOS, little bit more slowly representatives of old chipsets and to leave forward on speed it does not help and DDR3, even on frequency of 10 MHz.
So, the payment on P did not become revelation, they are quite suitable to purchase for practically any interested person (though while we did not see high-grade realization of support DDR3). As to two concrete considered sparc notebook payments MSI, it is sound models of an average level, without excesses both on a complete set, and on firm features. But to their functionality of the claim can show unless computer enthusiasts, also praises deserve convenience of distributing and design of the power block. In a life these models have very much liked us, especially chipsetnoe cooling, and we do not see the reasons on which payments MSI P Neo should be avoided.
Models MSI P Neo Combo in the Moscow retail: N/D (0)
Models MSI P Neo in the Moscow retail: $1 (79)
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